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Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Sep 11^th, 2008, 10:03pm

Hello
After recovering from the Tour of the Campsies, next up is the Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial on 5 October 2008. Finish the season with a bang or end up just plain worn out Wink

Details of this great end of season hilly time trial can be found on the Ivy website
http://www.ivycc.co.uk/tourdetrossachs2008.htm

Club Hill Climb is on the day before so that'll be your warm up Cheesy

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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #1 - Sep 19^th, 2008, 9:12pm

This is the perfect event to finish the season on.
It would be good to see every possible shape and gender of Gale out ........that means you Mr MacIlraith.
We can then race back as a bunch, 20/30 gales all in the blue..................what a sight.

So put your fingers to the buttons and sign on.............bugger the weather, don't spectate on the armco get of your arse and .........
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Jamie Club Member The Gale Forum is superb ! Posts: 142 Gender:	Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2008, 11:16am Sounds good Robert - posted my entry last week.
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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #4 - Sep 30^th, 2008, 3:35pm

Start sheet for this event, ONLY five Gales on it Sad

Further updates may be made here http://www.ivycc.co.uk/%5Cforum%5Ctopic.asp?TOPIC_ID=952

TOUR DE TROSSACHS - START SHEET
Sunday, 5th October 2008 - Start time 10.00am

No Name Club Cat
1 Isobel Fletcher Glasgow Wheelers W
2 Gillian Palmer Sandy Wallace Cycles W
3 Elaine Lowden Private W
4 Lyndsey Carson Glasgow MTB Club W
5 Lee Vernett Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock W
6 Alison Kerr Berwick Wheelers W
7 Katherine Wren Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar W
8 Sharon Doyle Ivy Cycling Club W
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10 Jane Morris Kennoway RC W
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12 Christine McLean Shetland Wheelers W
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14 Claire Thomas Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn W
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16
17
18 William Bowers Stirling Bike Club Jnr
19
20 Calum McLean Rock and Road Cycles Jnr
21
22 Alistair McNicol Velo Ecosse Jnr
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24
25 Andrew Wilson St. Christopher CC 4V50
26 Alan Robinson Border City Wheelers 4V50
27 Duncan Gillies Elgin CC 4V50
28 Alex McAllister Ayr Road CC 4V50
29 Randle Shenton Team Swift Allsports 4V50
30 James Law Perth United CC 4V50
31 Steve Nutley Fife Cycling 2000 4V50
32 Davie Miller Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments V50
33
34 David Lang Glasgow Wheelers 3V50
35 Colin Russell Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V50
36 Bill Young National Clarion (West Lothian) 3V50
37 Billy McMillan Inverclyde CRT 3V50
38 Angus Morrison Glasgow Road Club 3V50
39 Alan Solway Kennoway RC 3V50
40
41 Hamish Battye Private 4S
42 Douglas Kirkham Musselburgh RCC 4S
43 Graeme Hay Private 4S
44 Mr Wren Private 4S
45 Stuart Reid Glasgow Couriers 4S
46 Miquel Ciriza Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 4S
47 Anthony Crimin Dunfermline CC 4S
48 Jamie Kennedy Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments 4S
49
50 Stephen Macintyre Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 4V40
51 Barry Duncan Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 4V40
52 Duncan Warwick Deeside Thistle CC 4V40
53 John Gordon Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments 4V40
54 Andrew Sinclair Edinburgh RC - The BicycleWorks 4V40
55
56 Paul Horby Ivy Cycling Club 3V40
57 Stephen McDowell National Clarion (West Lothian) 3V40
58 Graham Jones Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V40
59 Andrew Rowat Musselburgh RCC 3V40
60 Ken Russell Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V40
61 Brendan McCabe Aberdeen Wheelers 3V40
62 Martin Kane Pedal Power RT 3V40
63 Hamish Irvine Cairngorm CC 3V40
64 Matthew Ball National Clarion (West Lothian) 3V40
65 Jonny May` Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V40
66 Douglas Robertson Berwick Wheelers 3V40
67 Tom Worthington Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 3V40
68 Graeme Hay Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar 3V40
69 Iain Binning Denny Road Club 4V60
70 Jim Leslie The Bicycle Works.com 3V60
71 Jocky Johnstone Team Icarus 2V60
72 Tim Norton National Clarion (West Lothian) 3S
73 Paul Cureze Lomond Roads 3S
74 Eddie Cowie Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar 3S
75 Terence McMahon Ivy Cycling Club 3S
76 Jeremy Greengrass Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 3S
77 Brian Nicholson Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3S
78 Scott Newman Inverclyde CRT 3S
79 Jamie Ballantine Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar 3S
80 David Martin Private 3S
81 Mark paul National Clarion (West Lothian) 3S
82 Michael Summers Dunfermline CC 3S
83 Jamie Drever Glasgow Wheelers 3S
84 Graeme Cockburn Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 3V40
85
86 Stevie Blom Glasgow Couriers/Bennet Developments 3S
87
88 Peter Ettles Forres CC 2V40
89
90 James Cusick Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments 2V40
91
92 David Gibson Dooleys RT 2V40
93
94 Silas Goldsworty Velo Ecosse 2S
95
96 Alistair Robinson Hand in Hand Bael 2S
97
98 Gary Robson Dooleys RT 2S
99
100 Aidan McIlroy Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 2S
101
102 Arthur Doyle Dooleys RT 2S
103
104 Jonathan Copp Sandy Wallace Cycles 2S
105
106 Philip Brown Velo Ecosse 2S
107
108 Carlos Riise Shetland Wheelers 1V40
109
110 James McCallum Plowman Craven 1S
111
112 Barry McGurk Team Icarus 1S
113
114 Alex Coutts Biant Asia RT 1S
115
116 Callum Wilkinson The Bicycle Works.com 1S
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118 Gordon Murdoch Pedal Power RT/Endura 1S
119
120 Evan Oliphant Plowman Craven 1S

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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #5 - Sep 30^th, 2008, 5:46pm

Graeme, I really wanted to do the race but the timing of me joining the club and getting a racing bike built up has been bad.

I feel I am fit enough to get round the course but I still don't have time trial bars for example.

Acch, I'll just train away over the winter and get ready for next year.

Its a real classic of a time trial and one of my favourites from years ago.

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Graeme Club Member Posts: 1555 Gender:	Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial Reply #6 - Sep 30^th, 2008, 5:54pm Mark, I'll be spending half my time out of the saddle so wonder if tri bars will be required. There are still gaps there if you want to mail or phone Janette to get a start, I'd be surprised if she knocks you back.
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stephenMac YaBB Administrator Don't touch the brakes Posts: 375	Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial Reply #7 - Oct 1^st, 2008, 10:00am Hi Mark I am not riding with bars and as Graeme says there are many bits of the course where you are up-down out of the saddle as well as on the up hills where bars won't make much difference to your speed. So don't let lack of tri bars put you off StephenMac
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phil deveney Club Member dig in! Posts: 208 Gender:	Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial Reply #8 - Oct 1^st, 2008, 10:50am mark, i got a late entry yesterday from janette and am also riding without tri bars-dont think they would give me much advantage anyway! as the guys have said the course is undulating enough that any aero gain may be negated by the extra weight hope u get a ride phil
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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2008, 11:05pm

There's an error in the start sheet - they've got me down as Stirling Bike Club... Anyway, it's all sorted now and I'm off 5 mins in front of Graeme - who I fully expect to pass me before the top of the dukes... I won't be using tri bars either, I may stop to enjoy a mars bar somewhere along the way tho. It's important to keep your energy levels up during time trials. Grin

Seriously, I'll need all the encouragement I can get... happy to receive shoves, maybe I can get drafting behind a sit on lawn mower. Also, I'd appreciate a copy of the Sunday Times (with supplements) being made available at the top of the dukes. I can put this down the t-shirt and maybe get a bit more speed up for the descent. See you all sunday.

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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #11 - Oct 3^rd, 2008, 4:49pm

I've just received an updated start sheet which now shows NINE Nightingales

1 Isobel Fletcher Glasgow Wheelers W
2 Gillian Palmer Sandy Wallace Cycles W
3 Elaine Lowden Private W
4 Lyndsey Carson Glasgow MTB Club W
5 Lee Vernett Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock W
6 Alison Kerr Berwick Wheelers W
7 Katherine Wren Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar W
8 Sharon Doyle Ivy Cycling Club W

10 Jane Morris Kennoway RC W

12 Christine McLean Shetland Wheelers W

14 Claire Thomas Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn W
15 Derek Biggerstaff Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock V50
16 Gavin Rowley Private V40
17George Adam SVTTA V40
18 William Bowers Stirling Bike Club Jnr
19 Carlos Riise Shetland Wheelers 1V40
20 Calum McLean Rock and Road Cycles Jnr
21 Kim Threadgal
22 Alistair McNicol Velo Ecosse Jnr
23 Sadiq Mir National Clarion (West Lothian) 4S
24 James Yip Private 4S
25 Andrew Wilson St. Christopher CC 4V50
26 Alan Robinson Border City Wheelers 4V50
27 Duncan Gillies Elgin CC 4V50
28 Alex McAllister Ayr Road CC 4V50
29 Randle Shenton Team Swift Allsports 4V50
30 James Law Perth United CC 4V50
31 Steve Nutley Fife Cycling 2000 4V50
32 Davie Miller Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments V50
33 Neil McFarlane Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar ???
34 David Lang Glasgow Wheelers 3V50
35 Colin Russell Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V50
36 Bill Young National Clarion (West Lothian) 3V50
37 Billy McMillan Inverclyde CRT 3V50
38 Angus Morrison Glasgow Road Club 3V50
39 Alan Solway Kennoway RC 3V50
40 Stuart Moran Perth United CC 4S
41 Hamish Battye Private 4S
42 Douglas Kirkham Musselburgh RCC 4S
43 Graeme Hay Private 4S
44 Mr Wren Private 4S
45 Stuart Reid Glasgow Couriers 4S
46 Miquel Ciriza Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 4S
47 Anthony Crimin Dunfermline CC 4S
48 Jamie Kennedy Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments 4S
49 Philip Deveney Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 4S
50 Stephen MacIntyre Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 4V40
51 Barry Duncan Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 4V40
52 Duncan Warwick Deeside Thistle CC 4V40
53 John Gordon Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments 4V40
54 Andrew Sinclair Edinburgh RC - The BicycleWorks 4V40
55 Andrew Ferguson Private 4S
56 Paul Hornby Ivy Cycling Club 3V40
57 Stephen McDowell National Clarion (West Lothian) 3V40
58 Graham Jones Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V40
59 Andrew Rowat Musselburgh RCC 3V40
60 Ken Russell Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V40
61 Brendan McCabe Aberdeen Wheelers 3V40
62 Martin Kane Pedal Power RT 3V40
63 Hamish Irvine Cairngorm CC 3V40
64 Matthew Ball National Clarion (West Lothian) 3V40
65 Jonny May Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3V40
66 Douglas Robertson Berwick Wheelers 3V40
67 Tom Worthington Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 3V40
68 Graeme Hay Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar 3V40
69 Iain Binning Denny Road Club 4V60
70 Jim Leslie The Bicycle Works.com 3V60
71 Jocky Johnstone Team Icarus 2V60
72 Tim Norton National Clarion (West Lothian) 3S
73 Paul Cureze Lomond Roads 3S
74 Eddie Cowie Stirling Bike Club/Wheels of Callendar 3S
75 Terence McMahon Ivy Cycling Club 3S
76 Jeremy Greengrass Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 3V40
77 Brian Nicholson Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 3S
78 Scott Newman Inverclyde CRT 3S
79 Jamie Ballantine Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 3S
80 David Martin Private 3S
81 Mark Paul National Clarion (West Lothian) 3S
82 Michael Summers Dunfermline CC 3S
83 Jamie Drever Glasgow Wheelers 3S
84 Graeme Cockburn Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 4V40
85 Ben Abrahams Velo Ecosse 3S
86 Stevie Blom Glasgow Couriers/Bennet Developments 3S
87 Jason Roberts Glasgow Nightingale/NVT/Sapphire/Solid Rock 2S
88 Peter Ettles Forres CC 2V40

90 James Cusick Glasgow Couriers/Bennett Developments 2V40

92 David Gibson Dooleys RT 2V40

94 Silas Goldsworty Velo Ecosse 2S

96 Alistair Robinson Hand in Hand Bael 2S

98 Gary Robson Dooleys RT 2S

100 Aidan McIlroy Edn RC/Hilton Grosvenor/Glen Rental/Field and Lawn 2S

102 Arthur Doyle Dooleys RT 2S

104 Jonathan Copp Sandy Wallace Cycles 2S

106 Philip Brown Velo Ecosse 2S

110 James McCallum Plowman Craven 1S

112 Barry McGurk Team Icarus 1S

114 Alex Coutts Biant Asia RT 1S

116 Callum Wilkinson The Bicycle Works.com 1S

118 Gordon Murdoch Pedal Power RT/Endura 1S

120 Evan Oliphant Plowman Craven 1S

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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #12 - Oct 3^rd, 2008, 8:51pm

Good luck everyone in the time trial, it really is a special classic of a race.

Thanks for the encouragement but I will give it a miss, too much going on to get organised for it, plus I dont think I am fit enough for it just yet, I'll continue to slave away in training over the winter, breaking spokes left right and centre....

Broke another two tonight...... cry

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Re: Tour de Trossachs Mountain Time Trial
Reply #13 - Oct 5^th, 2008, 4:46pm

What a day for a bike race. 3'C on the DRIVE out (thanks Phil) then by the time I set off it was pretty nice and conditions must have been near perfect. Full results won't be known until tomorrow or Tuesday but think everyone that rode knows their own times.

Hope Tom and Stephen made it home okay as they were on the point of bonking but sent Derek and myself on. Some of the drivers today really were nutters, we got deliberately clipped by a car that had bikes on the back, umpteen squeeze bys and one nutter in a Subaru testing out his brakes and the car following him. Shocked

Well done everyone that rode and thanks to the Sunday bunch for all the cheers.

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Reply #14 - Oct 5^th, 2008, 6:26pm

Aye that was another splendid Tour of the Trossachs. Jeanette really knows how to order the weather. It certainly was cold riding out to Aberfoyle this morning but plenty porrige, an extra layer and fingered gloves made it delightful ride on such a crisp morning.
For me the ride was reasonably straitforward, I had a slow start but the Dukes went past my wheels quickly and I had caught my 2 minute man Johnny May (ERC) by the top. A swooping descent was fun on dry roads with a contraflow of Nightingale warbling encouragement. Big Johnny overhauled me at the foot and I sat 50 m behind him all the way to the Torrey Forrest road. This was great for me as TT pacing is hardly my strength, but keeping a solid tester an even gap ahead allowed me to relax in the knowledge that I was making reasonable time - and would likely pass him again when the road kicked up again. Sure enough i gobbled a gel at Callander and streamed past him on the climb - such different riders but making similar progress, thats the beauty of the course. He, who has exclusively TTed this year, whereas I've been all about RRs He on a Teschner with disc and an 808, me on the Pinarello with box section rims - we ended up crossing the line together. Thus all I know is that I finished 2 mins ahead of him (he had shipped his chain at the foot of the Dukes - guess it really is not often his TT rig spins on the wee ring) - I have no idea what my overall time was:
nor can I tell you Jasons, Stephens, Lees, Phils, Jezs or Jamies times because I wasn't paying attention to the figures but I can tell you that Graeme was 3rd vet with a 1.09 something and that Derek was a cold and not feeling well on the line DNS.
The unfeasably skinny Arthur Doyle (Dooleys) won the mens event with a 1.04 something from Evan Oliphant (PCA) (who won the hill prime by a corner-cuttin' second) with Jim Cusick (Glasgow Couriers) an excellent 3rd & 1st vet.
Christine Maclean (Shetland Wheelers) was first woman home, Sharon Doyle (Ivy) was 2nd and Claire Thomas (ERC) 3rd.
Alistair MacNicol (Velo Ecosse) who rode that Lammermuirs RR so well a few weeks ago was first under 21 round the course.
If the times seem fast - well they are! But they are extra wee as the course was shortened by a mile and a half due to roadworks.
A great day with a really nice gathering of cyclists past present and future at the sign-on/prize giving.
I was indeed feeling fairly weak on the way home but nothing that the remaining apricots and dates in my back pockets couldn't fix.
There was indeed some particularly insane driving going on - that Subaru driver clearly regards the A81 as his very own rally track and the disregard with which certain cars with bikes strapped to the back showed us was both ludicrous and terrifying.

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